My 430 isn't feeling very well.
Can you help? Please!
 

Any owner having a problem with their Maserati can send me details and I will publish these, together with any subsequent advice I receive, on this page.

Just drop me a line at:-maserati123@btopenworld.com

 

Even if I don't succeed in helping you with your problems; and I do try, it would help other Maserati owners a great deal if you could let me know how you managed to solve your problems. THANK YOU!

 
 
 

Adesola in the USA writes:

 

"Hi,

I live in New York and love the steering wheel that Rossano from Repartocorse has on the modified Si on page 37. I own a 1989 430 and was hoping you could direct me as to how to get that steering wheel and the price. Thanks for such a wonderful site.

Adesola."

 
 

Reply from Rossano:-

Re: Steering wheel:

"Scusa per il ritardo della risposta ma ho avuto problemi di posta elettronica, comunque il volante è un MOMO modello Olimpic III che era prodotto nei primi anni 90, attualmente è in produzione una versione aggiornata chiamata Olimpic 2000 di cui ti mando una foto, comunque puoi vedere tutto sul sito www.momo.it

Il costo non lo so, all'epoca il precedente proprietario lo aveva pagato circa 500 euro completo di mozzo, su un sito vedo in vendita il modello 2000 a 545 $ ma non so se è completo di mozzo http://sportscar-parts.com/mmwheel.htm

Ciao,

Rosssano."

 

"Sorry I'm a little late with my reply but I have been having problems with my e-mails. However, the steering wheel is the model Olympic III by MOMO shown in the attached photo, but you can see everything on the MOMO website at www.momo.it

I've no idea of the price. At the time the previous owner paid around €500.00 including the mounting boss. On this website http://sportscar-parts.com/mmwheel.htm. I have noticed the model 2000 on sale at $545.00 but that doesn't include the mounting boss.

Ciao,

Rossano."

 
 
 
 
 

Jamal in Oman writes:

 

"Hi,

Thanks a lot for u website its really interesting.

My name is Jamal I'm from Oman I have a 1990 430 it's a really nice car, the only problem is that it is difficult to get spare parts and their prices are out of reach.

My problem with the car is that sometimes when I accelerate faster I see some smoke and fuel smell in the exhaust can you please advise what to do.

Jamal."

 
 
 
 

Andrew in New Zealand writes:

 

"Hi!

I have a Maserati 430. The problem is - how to make an onboard computer diagnostics? How to read the fault codes. I've heard about the plugs, but no one could help me to find them under the bonnet. The problem of a car - the fuel mixture is TOO rich. It comes black smoke and looks like some sensor is faulty.

I would appreciate any answer.

With best regards,

Andrew."

 
 

Reply from Andy:-

Re: 430 and black smoke:

"Hi Henry,

The usual problems that cause rich running are:

1. A failure of the fuel injection water temperature sensor. This is a brass sensor with a blue plastic electrical connection, situated in the cooling system to the top of the engine. With the engine running, remove the electrical connection. If there is no change in the engine note, renew the sensor.

2. A failure of the fuel injection air temperature sensor. This is also a brass sensor with a BROWN plastic electrical connection, situated in the air system to the top of the engine. Diagnose using same procedure as above.

If neither of those make any difference:

1. Substitute the MAP sensor (square black plastic fitted to the side of the plenum chamber with a vacuum and electrical connection.

If there is still no difference:

1.Check the actual CO content using a gas analyser to see how rich. Sensor failures usually make it 10%. Correct is 2.5%. If you only have a marginal difference from standard, you can trim the mixture using a screw in the fuel ECU (under passenger seat) but this will only make small changes.

If there is still no difference:

Start to become concerned. Is the engine high mileage (over 100K miles?). If so, carry out a compression test. Low compressions (under 100psi) mean that the engine will not create enough vacuum to allow the fuel injection to work properly and therefore an engine rebuild is necessary.

Hope this helps,

Andy."

 
 
 
 

Tony in the UK writes:

 

"Is it possible to remove turbo's from a 1989 430 without removing engine? (It's a RHD car).

Thanks,

Tony."

 
 

Reply from Enrico:-

Re: 430 turbochargers:

"Hi Tony,

If your car has the 24-valve engine then the engine must come out to remove the turbochargers. If your car has the 18-valve engine, then they will come out, but it is a bit of a job.

Hope this helps,

Enrico."

 
 
 
 

Simon in the UK writes:

 

"Hi,

Always been keen on the Bi-Turbos and have just found one close to me that needs some work, which I think will be a pain, but is something that can be sorted. What I've no good idea about are running costs. Can anyone give me a reasonable idea of what I'd need to expect for a 70K 1989 example? Probably wouldn't be used for more than 5 or 6K miles a year and I'm fairly handy with mechanics myself, (run a TVR of a similar age which I do a lot on myself). There will be specialist jobs that I'd need advice on, but would like to know of costs etc upfront if possible.

Thanks,

Simon."

 
 
 
 

Jean-Louis in France writes:

 

"Hello,

I'm looking for the electric diagram of maserati 430 biturbo (92).

Could you help us?

Thanks,

Jean-louis Poteaux"

 
 

Reply from Enrico:-

Re: 430 wiring diagrams:

"Check out the reply to the next question!!"

 
 
 
 

Tony in the UK writes:

 

"Enrico:

I need a wiring diagram for my 1991 430 auto, right-hand drive.

Can you suggest a source?

Thanx,

Tony."

 
 

Reply from Andy:-

Re: 430 wiring diagrams:

Hi Tony,

Try Bill McGrath.

Bill McGrath Maserati
Unit 8
Claggy Road
Kimpton
Hertfordshire
SG4 8QB
England.

Tel: +44 (0) 1438 832161
Fax: +44 (0) 1438 833601

www.classicmaseratis.co.uk

Andy."

 
 
 
 

Durran in the UK writes:

 

"Hi there,

Hi there, has anyone got a sensibly priced sourse of back boxes for the Biturbo 430?

Incidentally I looked into Stainless Steel and was quoted £600 (not fitted) by quicksilver in London.

I have no views as to whether this is good value.. any suggestions?

Durran."

 
 

Reply from Gareth:-

Re: 430 SS exhaust system:

In reply to Durran's question in the 430 QandA section I would say that £600 is about the going rate for the stainless steel exhaust system, I once fitted such a system to my old 430.

I would highly recommend that route as the genuine mild steel items are about twice the price and dont last any time at all due to the angle of the boxes and how the condensation sits in them.

Cheers,

Gareth."

 
 
 

John in the UK writes:

 
 

"Hi Enrico,

I wrote a while back saying how my car was acting strangely like a "Kangaroo" etc.

Well, it turn out that after I'd fitted the new leads (one was loose and caused a backfire in the inlet which blew some gaskets) and the Map sensor also the water temp was giving silly read outs all the place.

I have it back now and I never had such a wonderful smooth idle cold or hot it never even hints at being erratic (honestly) and the power take up from idle is so smooth its a pleasure to drive in heavy traffic unlike before at anytime.........

But, it seems to be a bit underpowered to what it used to be. It doesn't seem to have that urgency when you hit the accelerator hard its more of a smoother, more boring build up now, I prefer my old hooligan style 430 of old but its disappeared?!

Can you shed some light on this please? I'd like to go back to the garage that set it up but be able to point them in the right direction as they have never worked on a Maserati before but have worked on Lancia Integrale's which use the same injection system.

Regards John."

 
 

Tony in the UK writes:

 

"I need a wiring diagram for my 1991 430 auto, rhd.

Can you suggest a source?

Thanks, Tony."

 
 

Durran in the UK writes:

 

"For some reason the fuel gauge on my 1989 430 goes down rapidly when I drive the car hard over long distances, is this normal? ONLY JOKING.

Actually the guage flickers violently and continually, I suspect bad contacts somewhere in the circuitry, before I start stripping the thing down can anyone tell me if there is a common failing in the sender / gauge assemblies that causes this?

Look forward to hearing from someone, thanks,

Durran."

 
 

Reply from Andy:-

Re: 430 fuel gauge:

To be honest, there is no particular problem associated with the fuel gauge. It does sound like a bad connection and I would try the connections on to the sender on the fuel tank followed by those on to the back of the instrument before going any deeper, both of which are easy to get to.

Cheers,

Andy."

 
 
 
 

John from ? writes:

 

"What can I do do to tighten up the handling? It's a lovely car but feels a bit daunting sometimes - eg. when on a long, tight radius motorway entry, or when asked to make a rapid change of direction.

Tony."

 
 

Reply from Andy:-

Re: 430 SE handling:

As far as I know, there are currently no handling kits available for the later Biturbo cars.

All relative I know, but a 430 should not feel like this anyway. Maybe a look at the springs and shock absorbers may be in order.

Also, tyres make a huge difference on these cars and anything remotely sub standard can destroy the handling.

Cheers,

Andy."

 
 
 
 

Jenny from ? writes:

 

"Hi Enrico,

Does the 430 have dump valves fitted? I noticed them on a Saab site as I was looking at their upgraded APC units which are the same ason our cars.

Regards Jenny."

 
 

Reply from Andy:-

Re: 430

"Hi Enrico,

There are no dump valves fitted to the 430.

Andy."

 
 
 
 

John in the UK writes:

 

"Hi Enrico,

My 1989 430 does not run properly, when i start the car it runs very rough as though on 2-3 cylinders and will not rev up at all past 2000rpm missing all the time!

This car is also converted to run on LPG gas, it runs OK when on Lpg gas but the revs will not drop below 2200.

I disconnected the Lpg Power and ECU and the car is the same so its nothing to do with that system.

This all started after i renewed the HT leads as it was fluffing abit at 1900-2200rpm , when i fitted the new leads the car started reacting like a kangaroo! I refitted the old leads and while doing so i found 2 that were broken and hanging on by a strand and tracking to the head a jubilee clip near the distributor, after refitting the original leads the car went like a dream . I drove it back to my home and after 3minutes started the car up to go out again and i had all this trouble...can you help please???

Regards John.."

 
 

Reply from Andy:-

Re: 430

"Hi Enrico,

Really need more information on this one but:

1. The basic causes of this type of misfire would be either a rotor arm problem, a distributor cap problem, a spark plug problem, an ignition coil problem or a high resistance on the body earth connection at the battery. All of these should be eliminated before looking further.

2. Next, what is the CO reading? Is it high? Is it sooty in the exhaust? What colour were the old spark plugs? If everything suggests rich running then try cleaning the connections for the air temp and water temp sensors on the injection system. You could try renewing if you think you are on to something.

Otherwise, difficult to say without info. In theory, the LPG should not make a difference.

Cheers,

Andy."

 
 
 
 

Fred in The Netherlands writes:

 

"Hi, Recently I had to remove one of my cylinder heads because I had few valves which were bent.

Now I've replaced them and mounted the cylinder head back on again. Unfortunately it is now blowing big bubbles of something in my expension reservoir. I think there's a huge air bubble in the cooling system which I can't seem to get out.

Can you tell me how to get the air out.

Thanks. Best regards, Fred."

 
 

Follow up from Fred:

Re: 430 Cooling system.

"Hi,

Thank you for your reply. The car we are talking about is a Maserati 430 Biturbo.

When the engine gets hot it starts to throw the cooling fluid straight back to the expansion tank. Then there are a few lights burning on my dashboard.

All the hoses of my system get hot, so it can't be my thermostat I suppose. Any case, whatever I do, it keeps on throwing it back to the expansion tank.

Does it always take so long to get the air out?

It can't be the head gasket, because after starting the car the engine runs OK straight away. There's no water in one of the cylinders.

I hope this gives you enough information.

Best regards,

Fred."

 
 

Reply from David:-

Re: 430 air bubbles!

"Hi Enrico,

My first instinct is that the head gasket is leaking and blowing gas into the water jacket, fortunately for me I have never experienced this with my maserati, but I have done with other engines. A small leak can allow gas into the water jacket with little or no water getting into the cylinder or the oil, although it will deteriorate soon and become apparent, it may run happily for weeks, However the potential damage to the rest of the engine is serious. Is there any sign of red/rust coloured deposits on any of the plugs?

If it is just a case of trapped air it will help if you can remove the brass temperature sensor fitted in the top of the thermostat housing, if you then take the cap off the expansion bottle fluid and air will come out of the openning. Do this with the engine cold obviously, when there is no more air comming out screw the sensor back in. One other point to note this liquid will run back along the top of the engine block down to the starter motor and out through the bell housing, a little will not do any harm but try not to flood it and dry up the excess were possible. You can assist the process by gently squeezing the radiator hoses to create a pumping action. It is worth noting that the thermostatic valve system permits flow at all times and acts by reducing the ammount which bypasses the water pump. It is basicly fail safe and will not "dead end" the pump, and so a certain flow will be seen.

Also carefully running the engine with the cap off the expansion bottle will allow the liquid in the system to expand without being under pressure and can help get bubbles moving, again take care not to burn yourself nor over heat the engine.

One other area may be the hose conections, I assume that these have been connected in the same positions they came off?

How did the valves get bent?

I hope this provides some ideas or help.

Regards David."

 
 
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